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    first off sorry if i step on some toes. yes my spelling is shit so stay in school kids let begin.

    Lets go through each faction and start on rebels. like always all you do really is banks to kill cops or bitch and moan some thing is op and should be removed or you want something added to give you the upper hand but to burst you bubble altho this is a game its a life server and just like in life the cops will always out number and out gun secondly the posts going around ifrits being removed is stupid because they are alot better to deal with in combat that striders where maby they should be added back in to remind you. as a rebel if you want better leway more fun roleplay more dont be the salty kids sitting on sydney boarder all gear up crying try to roleplay have abit of fun you are rebels yes killing cops is what your ment todo but you also but in doing that you give yourself a bad reputation with not just the cop but the staff because you in more issue than anything and then neather side wants to deal with you and if it get to bad cops just wont respond to bank and get harsher punishments when you do break rules or somthing goes wrong but thats all i have to say for rebels.

    civs: yes you city rats that i love so much for making me free money from the cops there is alot more to the server than just decing or rdming vdming dyscning and being general trolls it fun and its funny to watch but the people you do it to are not just players who have been on the server for awhile and know this its also new players that you drive off the server which will result in you getting bored really quick roleplay more think of silly situations you can do that could or couldnt work just dont break rules in doing it and you could probly have lot more fun just talking shit and messing around plus other could join and enjoy it aswell.

    cops: this one is the toes part im not talking about anyone in partticular not even the 3 past commissioners or staff im just saying what i see from coming back here and there over the past 2 years when i left to uncook myself so it might be harsh

    as cops you have it so easy and such a big head now  90% of the people i have watch and witness do shit wouldn't have made it past sergeant 2 years ago and why is this well you dont act like cops you act like rebels you bare bones roleplay and by that i mean you shoot to kill rather than taze/knock and arrest and if you do arrest its guilty till proven innocent which doesnt happen because you power trip and well what you say goes or its helpdesk bitching and moaning ok i get the arguement that o but there trolls and they always do this blah blah in your sops as of current and its always been 1.3 officers are to value roleplay and maintain a professional standard at all times while representing the police force. 1.3.1 Officers are to value roleplay above any monetary gain from tickets or the bounty system and these are just the 1. in the sops the basics and you cant even do that and yes i hold you cops to alot higher standards than rebel and civ because there should be alot higher standers than bookem and sendem who cares. shit has been made that easy for cops that you cant make many mistakes to then learn from them from the way you conduct yourself around sydney to roleplaying basic cop everyday shit.

    medic: no you havent changed in my books you all take forever to respond and cant drive to save you own life but medic roleplay has dropped alot aswell half of you if not most dont even talk unless your complaing about somthing.

    Staff i know a few of you and yes hope to rejoin at somepoint and help as someone now looking back in and seeing the changes seeing id say at the moment a very low point for the server alot has changed alots probly happend for these changes but i think for the rules allowing to use names while in combat silly and abit of a push over to make it easyer for 1 faction for sydney i think havent clothing itself banned in sydney is silly as its ment to be a sort of representation on life as its a life server i do agree tho with vests and helmest and the guns but for people running around who care what you are wearing what you wear can change the roleplay for both between or worst for the party and create more roleplay options aswell as face masks so that even then cops can have there detectives up and running around sydney trying to completly get people in the act which could reduce the amount of trolls aswell as killings in sydney.

     

    so with all this said and if your going to say dead server and carry on why are you here if you dont care about the server if you are reading this or on the server then there is something keeping you hear and i simply asking for help as a civ a shit shot a old school roleplayer and current pubslot for your help to return the server to its once roleplay rich ways where both old and new players had a heap of fun and dumb shenanigans

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  • HAMME    36

    all we do is banks? we avoid banks because we get zerged by srt with lvl 5's and mk 200's or asp's. u should play rebel before u comment on it

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    was refering to a certain group that only do that and only have ever really done that and yes ive heard from a few different groups that camp illigal seller or and random shit

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    sq or previously v i think but ntr and sp before which have always put up the same posts and gone on about the same shit for 2 years if not 3 plus theres been a few other people who have said the same thing i just dont understand why you are getting ass hurt over what i think

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    JdawgZ    226
    50 minutes ago, Nigel Gluesniff said:

    rules allowing to use names while in combat silly and abit of a push over to make it easyer for 1 faction for sydney i think havent clothing itself banned in sydney is silly as its ment to be a sort of representation on life as its a life server.

    I agree and i disagree on this point...

    The rule was specifically about gang tags, not about names. The purpose of the rule was to add balance back to the Cops vs Gang scenario. in rebel vs rebel or civ vs civ combat, when dec'd on, you all use the gang names to identify who you are fighting and who you can incapacitate or target.

    for cops, its even easier for rebels, you can just look at the uniform and vehicle and see the cops coming long before you see a name tag.

    in Sydney it was worse, rats would dec on cops, walk up to them and chase them then wait for the cop to turn around and kill them. The cop couldnt do shit until a hostile action was taken. This was perhaps the most stupid part of the game I personally had ever seen. This isnt roleplay and a life server you dont dec on some one then stand next to them for 9 mins and walk with them then shoot them. People wonder why the rule change came in, blame the way the rats would dec/then in plain sight be trolling.

    I agree with you though, it removes alot of old roleplay which was fun. Cops having to trick you into revealing your identity or catching you breaking a law and decing on you etc.

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    Sydney should be the pinnacle of roleplay on the server, but its not, both civs and cops are to blame.

    Cops dont want to roleplay with you if they cant stand still for longer than a minute without receiving 3 or 4 decs in that time, they are not going to bother with RBT or trying to give you a roadside ticket cause in the time it takes them to finish roadside roleplay, theyd have been killed 4 times over by civs with nothing better to do. Cops should be trying to tase and restrain, but half the time they try take you back to PD, people eject out of vehicles while in restraints (not VLR) to kill themselves, they scream in their discords for friends to kill them (as a retired mod, i cant tell you how many times i have heard that in evidence videos provided "just kill me before he takes me back"). The side chat of gangs cohesively telling eachother exactly where cops are and working together etc. Then when they do get you back to PD, the same stories told over and over again, then laywers come and do the exact same thing every single time.... i look forward to seeing you nigel in the processing rooms cause its always really funny. Other lawyers seem to follow the same lame script and nothing changes lol.

    At the same time, Civs dont want to roleplay cause aside from runs outside of city limits, the only thing the server offers is combat or being a troll/rat. So back to my personal POV, theres nothing to do in sydney lol. So what roleplay can civilians do? theres no jobs or points of interest in sydney. so being a rat is literally the main point of Sydney.

    After wipe, cops left sydney - the city was abandoned and the pop near but all died. Cops barely saw civs or rebels only to occasionally enter into boring dsync battles or banks. Civs basically left the server cause all they wanted to was be rats. The medics try to role play and often get told no or to **** off.... aside form revives all they have is verbal roleplay "are you ok, you need to come to hospital with meso i can roleplay operate on you" etc - no one wants to to do it tho  and for the medics theres nothing in the server that gives them anything else to do (i always wanted to see extra things like endemics or plagues etc) No jobs meant nothing really to do and because people dont have purposes any more, the roleplay that goes with it is dead.

    So yea Roleplay is definitely missing, every faction has a part to play - medics really need to learn to drive - i personally believe we need a new meta or purpose for rebels and civs to do and enjoy where combat isnt the main focus, but a resort they will happily go to if you interfere with their purpose. Then Roleplay in my opnion will start to come back.

    These are my thoughts - agree or disagree just dont be salty lol

     

     

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    Lzybum    14

    Here my 2cents given that I haven't been too active as of late. Which I agree with you to an extent.

    Rebels groups from what I have seen so far are combat orientated. When not killing cops they generally would be fighting other rival rebel groups or fighting APD contractors. I personally do not know of role play between said rebels due to myself mostly playing cop. And I know between these downtimes you guys farm for cash to support these constant fights. Maybe a shift between cops and rebels for more roleplay which more hostages or weapons/drug smuggling in towns. Just a suggestion but they also do need an incentive to do them.

    The civs in town. Yes i do know what you mean by the rats constantly going around. I know this deters quite a bit of new players but I kind of feel the APD needs to sort that out. If you want to assault and rob people in town you are free to do so however not without punishment assuming you aren't RDMing. So maybe to combat this via police side is either more patrols and harsher punishments for Murder where you cannot apply for bail or possibility to fail escaping with the spoon or physically be doing something in prison to allow your timer in prison to start ticking 

    Police now what can I really say. Quite more combat focused than what I remember similar to rebels to an extent. Yes we follow protocols and such but I do understand fellow officers when how frustrating some criminals will be making it every way possible to make your life difficult and being less fun overall. Never mind the abuse you will get or the ear screeching from them. I find this more reactionary compared to the other 2 factions based on their interactions. Because both rebels and civs have become  more gung ho and blasting people due to this becoming fun. I would suggest going to physically taking people to prison and have a few guarding because it is laughable how often people break out of jail and never serve their full sentence. I have yet to see proper corruption  between a cop and a rebel/civ but hey they might be doing it correct and not being found out.

    Server events will help create more role play along the server however that is up to the discretion of moderaters and admins. This also takes time to set up as well which can be fun given that it is planned properly.

    It all depends on what the server needs/wants to keep it interesting 

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    yeah i get your point but at the time the strongest ive seen the cop force wasnt even when i was helping with it was just before when that shit would happen but the cops in general had better rep and didnt get dec every 2 seconds because they would roleplay and have fun with the rats at times and make them bonds and yeah i have popped in quiet a few times under different names to have a look and see it barren abit rats always need to be reminded and settled down and good ol purple suit yousta do that when i say and just watched them all but yes it will take everyone to change the server and to help regain what i was and not the barren husk its become other wise you may aswell change the server name

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    the abuse cops get and the earscreaching aint new but still need to be better than the trolls rather than just bam im a cop too bad thats the hole reason me and dud started to arcadamy was to help being and train them to be better now it looks like a joke of a department which is annoying

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    Mr Chu    5
    4 hours ago, JdawgZ said:

    After wipe, cops left sydney - the city was abandoned and the pop near but all died. Cops barely saw civs or rebels only to occasionally enter into boring dsync battles or banks. Civs basically left the server cause all they wanted to was be rats. The medics try to role play and often get told no or to **** off.... aside form revives all they have is verbal roleplay "are you ok, you need to come to hospital with meso i can roleplay operate on you" etc - no one wants to to do it tho  and for the medics theres nothing in the server that gives them anything else to do (i always wanted to see extra things like endemics or plagues etc) No jobs meant nothing really to do and because people dont have purposes any more, the roleplay that goes with it is dead.

    So yea Roleplay is definitely missing, every faction has a part to play - medics really need to learn to drive - i personally believe we need a new meta or purpose for rebels and civs to do and enjoy where combat isnt the main focus, but a resort they will happily go to if you interfere with their purpose. Then Roleplay in my opnion will start to come back.

     

     

    As JdawgZ said its kinda hard to try and initiate role play when the first thing a rebel or a cop says to a Medic after being revived is:

    - Thanks mate!

    - What the F**k took you so long, i've been dead for nearly 10 minutes (blah blah blah)

    - Got RDM'ed cheers for the revive 

     

    Once in a blue moon we will get someone that wants to initiate role play so we do at the scene and sometimes take them back to the hospital, diagnose, role play etc and its normally some f'ed up fun and everyone gets a huge laugh and enjoys themselves! 

     

    It's also worth pointing out to people, medics have their own protocols, if combat is re initiated or continues for 10-15min, Medic's can't go in. Then you get your people that get tired of waiting and re spawn and in the end, no body needs reviving but maybe 1 person that died either at the start with an expensive load out or at the end and just "gets lucky". Then you have medic's that have tried to do their job, but in the end sit around for a while and do nothing. Major Robberies themselves, people either won't request especially if they are on the losing team unless they have a super valuable loadout or at the end of the combat. We have SOM Medics who go out there and stand bye, waiting for combat to conclude so that it is safe for them to go in and provide the medical assistance normally just to 1-3 people.

     

    For me, theres no easy way of bringing back roleplay to the server except just people (one at a time) taking that extra little bit of time to roleplay.

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    China    56

    Most rebels are not here to roleplay. They just want to fight.

     

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    yeah i think for medics if you notice someone has been sitting there on the map requested for like 5-10mins even tho there are gun shots most situation are over in 2-4mins but people just re dec and carry on ive sad dead wait for 45 mines under bridge its abit silly if you ask me 

    and for you china yes the good ol city rats causing shit but that doesnt mean the cops have to being the biggest rat gang in sydney and do the same dumb shit and both civvies and cops are at fault maby if cops gave abit of respect to them they would show it back and roleplay more and do other shit with out city rats and the shit that goes on near bridge there would be no need for any pds just srt for banks and shit

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    Lachlan    202

    here's my 2 cents

    Sydney has been a mess for years it's been the center of the server for almost 5 years now maybe every now and people go out from Sydney to do drugs or rob banks. Back even when we had 10 people on the server Sydney has been the center of the server due to city been bigger then the others and due to how popular sydney has always been. Maybe Cops and civ should leave Sydney and go some where else but the issue with that is the map is to large and you won't see everyone and then there's no RP really happing and so on so your kind of stuck at a win and a loss so to put it to Basic terms.

    Everyone leaves Sydney Pro:

    Not center of attention and people and might encourage RP.

    people might be able to do more RP situations some where else.

    Everyone leaves Sydney Con:

    too big of map for RP server.

    potential lose of population due to not having a center meeting point or main town.

    won't see another person for ages due to the scope of the map.

    Also to add on the AL server has always been about RP but mainly shooting and this has been an issue for ages it should have been a strict RP server it's a role play which means create a person and RP like hell it shouldn't have revolved about shooting people 24/7. Yes SP robbed the banks a lot i think one night they robbed the banks 3X-4X times in one night. but the server has changed alot since i was last on (2 Years ago) staff can't always enforce RP to 90 players a night with the staff only been 10%-15% of the population of Alits life. The amount of Help desk issues the staff deal with on a night basis is crazy. But it's upto the players to make or do what they want with the server as a whole like if most of the pop don't want to RP out of situations and shoot then you can't do much it's up to the Player-base on what wants to happen if the players start Doing More RP situations lay down the guns and don't shoot as much and encourage RP then as time goes on people will notice and it might a change might happen but until then you can't change everyone but it's gotta start with the gangs/cartels/cops and as time goes on the server will change but at the end of the day I can sit here all day telling people suggestions for changing the server but it's upto the players on what they want and the staff/management to enforce and change the rules as they see. but hey I'm just a Old retired Staff member that comes on here once in a blue moon to see what's happing and comment on certain things.

    Thanks for Reading,

    Lachlan

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    Chadd    798

    0 rebels want roleplay most of us come on for combat.

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    lets look at the facts sq is the dominat rebel group i know you idiots can roleplay yous dont want too cause you just wanna frags its always been that way but when yous had to roleplay yous would and were dam good at it. srt was always frag hungry and never gave a shit about roleplay gd were good at roleplay and even when sydney was more cancer and thus got decced on and ****ed with as much less plus they were just better in general with dealing with the rats trolls and rdming. thus with the roleplay there was more players on the server doing shit causeing each faction to have more frag moments like stop using half your brains how do you get more players to frag and they still wanna stay on the server and do runs even after the fact show them there is more on the server that getting decced on every 2 seconds that makes them become city rats.

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    sorry luke to me and probly a few others just cause your a good fragger doesnt mean your a good player maby they would be good or great on a wasteland or koth server but like they are half players to me

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    @Zesty when i join it was 80% roleplay kid stop being brain dead @Kevin-Rogers yeah because ive been watching you cops day in and day out failing at the basics of being a cop 🙂 and getting players opinions on the server which certain others should be doing rather than just listerning the frag hungry kiddies that will leave the server for more combat/better combat or get banned over and over again

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    PowerAsian    30
    On 8/13/2019 at 8:49 AM, Nigel Gluesniff said:

    camp illigal seller or and random shit

    That's how life works you win some or you just don't win, do you expect in IRL to go sell drugs without being robbed or caught. Having people camping there makes the game better instead of just doing runs consistently without a fight

    On 8/13/2019 at 1:52 PM, Mr Chu said:

    As JdawgZ said its kinda hard to try and initiate role play when the first thing a rebel or a cop says to a Medic after being revived is:

    - Thanks mate!

    - What the F**k took you so long, i've been dead for nearly 10 minutes (blah blah blah)

    - Got RDM'ed cheers for the revive 

    I love this point because it's so true as I have played in all factions and I know the feeling of that roleplay, but its the way it is you can't change that

     

    On 8/13/2019 at 2:16 PM, China said:

    Most rebels are not here to roleplay. They just want to fight.

    This is mostly true what do you think rebels should do, Roleplay with each other at cap points, Nah as rebels we are focusing to kill people and just mess around

     

    9 hours ago, Nigel Gluesniff said:

    sorry luke to me and probly a few others just cause your a good fragger doesnt mean your a good player maby they would be good or great on a wasteland or koth server but like they are half players to me

    Bruh, Luke is a legend OK! if you remove the OG people then the server will die because we lose people who keep server population up.

     

    5 hours ago, Nigel Gluesniff said:

    kid stop being brain dead

    This is used a lot because there are kids who think they are god at this game (mostly Sydney rats) but they actually not.

     

    I mean @Nigel Gluesniff I know what you are meaning with your post and I agree with some of it but there's stuff that won't be able to change because how people are used to in-game

     

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    rebels have always been about the frags yes but when they got knocked or tazed even at bank and after bitching like girls they still were able to roleplay and were pre good it. and i use small brain because its true they only think about there group and themselves what about the new people who join that want to roleplay and then leave the server cause barly anyone goes like because of this you get alot more city rats because of this the population of the server will go stale then you start bleeding pop then your og players that like fraging get bored so they leave anyway. how to keep new players that do want that roleplay and possbily have fun fragging increase roleplay between cops/civ and og players accually help and show new players

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    Dizzy    90
    On 8/13/2019 at 10:00 AM, Nigel Gluesniff said:

    all you do really is banks to kill cops or bitch and moan

     

    On 8/13/2019 at 10:38 AM, HAMME said:

    all we do is banks? we avoid banks because we get zerged by srt with lvl 5's and mk 200's or asp's. u should play rebel before u comment on it

    proves his point doesn't it bruz 

    Constantly complain about us zerging but thats the point of banks you're supposed to defend something hard not rip out ai driving at you. 

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    That Lucky SOB    371
    On 8/14/2019 at 1:02 AM, Chadd said:

    0 rebels want roleplay most of us come on for combat.

    That's honestly sad to hear, a lot of the best RPers and funnest RP I've ever seen has been Rebels who put in the effort to roleplay and outwit the cops rather than gun them down

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    Sammos    1
    On 8/13/2019 at 8:38 AM, HAMME said:

    all we do is banks? we avoid banks because we get zerged by srt with lvl 5's and mk 200's or asp's. u should play rebel before u comment on it

    Nigel has deff played rebel alot mate

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