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  1. 1 hour ago, Wiskey said:

    Gonna respond to these two points alone and do a general summary (not to say that you didn’t have other points, just that  I don’t want to hog the discussion with one scenario)

    - Yes we saw that he was arrested through the notification. It’s a grey zone in the rules to see if we are allowed to do that 

    - There was no shit talking in side from either side as in my memory ( I will amend this if someone disagrees) 

    - We did dec prior and we gave him multiple RP routes to let us into the house, e.g “give me the location of the spare key” or “give me a way to get into the house” 

     

    It is my belief that if you live through a dec, it is perfectly valid RP to hunt down the person that attempted to kill you/ killed your mates. I think it’s targeting if you die and continue the Feud because at that point your just being a dick. E.G is it targeting if you get arrested by a cop then later look for them in SYD and take them hostage is it targeting? 

     

    A level of common sense is applied, it’s mod discretion. Senior staff have been quite lazy (imo) with the rule updates and large exploits in the rules are still not fixed.

    Another point -  Severe double standards in staff has led to many issues with straya administration. I’m not staff on straya and I don’t know the internal protocols but a good fix would be a document with the rules on it and staff could comment on it with the given interpretation of the rules to insure a consistent message coming from staff: 

     

    I’ll give an example of this:

    I was playing pubbie yesterday and I saw some horrible RP from cops, and even exploiting. I took the cop up, he had impounded a police heli that had exploded after ramming (on purpose to my understanding)  a Civ heli in PD safezone, I was told that as it was a glitch he was in the right to exploit it - apparently it “saved time”  and I would get comped if my heli blew up in safezone. To test this theory I hopped on civ and decided to invert a hummingbird 10m off the ground at cartel 1. As you can guess, the mod handling my Comp request said: “I have denied your request as you have intentionally crashed and blown up your helicopter on purpose at no fault of the server.” Myself and the cop did the exact same thing - just I was on civ and he was cop, and he got to keep the heli because cops can exploit and keep exploded vehicles of theirs. 

    Im pretty sure that most people who play civ can relate to the experience that I have just described, it’s honestly tiring how every time you go up with a case against a cop you end up with nothing 

    Fair enough on your response ? like i said i was just giving my perspective without seeing any evidence and how a person could feel targetted after an hour when they are in prison.

    for the rules - there is a shared doc that we work on collectively between staff and management - often any rule that is changed or put in will result in some one finding a grey spot and trying to use it hence discretion is required. If you ever feel a decision was unfair you can request a review/appeal (as it sounds like you did).

    for your example of the impound, it is an interesting one that i havent seen raised before - if you have evidence of the cop heli being purposely crashed then id be interested to have a look at it so it can be discussed at a senior/management level. Generally in my own experience i have seen civs/rebels ask cops to impound their vehicle when it blows up in sydney and most of the time they do, impounding your own vehicle costs you your own money so most cops generally dont like doing it. I hear alot of mods get asked to impound vehicles as well to save people time and money (e.g. they get their helis/planes stuck etc). but yea, if you have a video of a purposeful crash/impound then im keen to have a look.

    as for your comp request, the comp system in my experience is there for when bad things happen to you that either are a result of a rule breach against you (e.g. RDM or VDM) where it wasnt your fault or fair that you lost your stuff, or a server issue resulted in the loss (a big example is people flying a heli then getting battle eye kicked resulting in their heli nose diving and going boom or driving over a hill touching a tree and suddenly being launched to the moon). If you have submitted a ticket with evidence of your deliberately inverting a heli and crashing it... to be fair, i wouldnt be surprised if it got denied as this goes against what the comp system is for. I have denied cop comp requests for similar (one example was 2 cops crashing qilins into each other and blowing up), if its not rule breach/server issue relating they will generally get denied.

     


  2. On 5/14/2019 at 9:33 AM, Wiskey said:

    Got some more rule grey zones, also if you wanna argue SRT vs GD then please take it elsewhere. 

    Affected Rules:

    2.6 Any actions that are done with the intention of interrupting or interfering with role-play or the actions of other people is trolling and fail role-play.

     

    2.6.1 Don’t be a dick. (Don't do anything which could be seen as purposely annoying or interfering with the Roleplay of others. Things like baiting police, destroying vehicles and targeting certain people).

     

    Suggested Fix: 

    Targeting needs a definition, along with guidelines of what is interrupting role play. Eg when someone robs me they are interfering with my RP. 

     

    I’ll highlight a situation that tested these rules.

    yesterday a gang mate of mines house was going to be broken into, he bought insurance before they actually decced or started bolt cutting so nothing got taken and they verbally decced on him, he told me who did it shortly before he died. I contacted another person for the guys house location and got it. Unfortunately it was insured. About an hour later we saw that he was imprisoned so we went to jail and he talked to us so we were pretty confident it was him. We robbed him for his house keys but he said he didn’t have the one for the specific house we were after, in a attempt to continue roleplay I asked him for the location spare key or any other way of getting inside. He didn’t work with us so he was killed. We were taken to HD and banned for a day (bans were reversed 5 minutes later) for interfering with RP and targeting. 

     

    This has brought a couple of questions up for discussion such as:

    is it still targeting if you have a RP reason, you haven’t died and you have only done it once? 

    is It valid RP to claim that you don’t have any keys despite you giving one?

    Can you RP your way out of actual facts if only one party is going this way with the RP? 

    these questions have big implications as from  what I was told in the HD channel I could literally RP out a MK200 as a toy gun, and if someone disagreed take them up to HD and have them banned. 

    I would ask - how did you know he was in jail? did you actually see him in there, did he give you his name or did you see it above his head or did you just see the arrest log at the bottom of the screen? What if he had died in that hour between your dec and his prison sentence, how do you know he is the same person?

    if your chasing a specific individual post dec to get revenge, you can appreciate how some might think that's targetting. i imagine there was some shit talking in side chat? possible even asking all civs if they had info on a specific person?

    on the turning up to prison part - if he is stuck in prison and you rock up fully armed demanding he turn over his house keys under the pretences of "give me your keys or your breaching VLR" (whether you actually said that or not wouldnt matter, he is stuck in prison - its like the rebels that go and steal the kidneys of prisoners, yea its funny, but if they are in there for 20 mins, but die from kidney loss in 15 then they respawn with a restarted timer, then the victim is gonna feel like you are a dick etc) but in prison, were he never had a chance to run or defend himself sounds like a bit of a dick move to me... (different if you caught him at his house and captured him outside of prison, but if he is in prison he can easily argue RP that the prison guards took his keys off him, you then killed him anyway resetting his prison sentence... from the outside looking in, your buddy was killed, an hour later your still steaming about the earlier dec, you targetted him/tracked him down, didnt get your way with the keys, killed him and reset his prison sentence - again you can appreciate how some one from the outside looking would see this). - im gonna assume you did actually send a verbal declaration or text declaration before trying to get keys off him lol..

    again, people will read and think very differently to what i have written above - im giving you my perspective. I personally feel 2.6 would be a weak issue here as he wasnt specifically doing RP other than waiting out a prison sentence. Would have been less of an issue if you broke him out of prison as a prison snatch (then your back into a new RP - sounds better then breaking in, give me your keys, no?, bang your dead, leave)

    Rule 2.6.1 - if you asked me if this was a dick move/targetting a player, now I personally was not there to see what you guys said or did with the prisoner, i can only make assumptions but from my perspective without all the facts yet, it looks like you were targetting but id need more evidence (e.g. side chat logs etc)

    There is a level of common sense that should be applied to the rules otherwise the Altis Life rules would be 10 pages long and we'd all be in HD everyday for every little fiddly thing and no one would ever know them all.

    An example of interfering with RP would be the likes some of the following scenarios (i say some, these are not the only scenarios obviously)

    - a hostage negotiation where a random civ/rebel comes up and just kills the hostage

    - Rebels third partying a bank, killing the bank robbers

    - rebels capture a rival rebel and a different rival team kills them to avoid hostage RP

    - Combat logging/Combat insuring a house, logging off to stop a house robbery

    Again, just my thoughts, but hope it helps :seemsgood:

     

     

     


  3. 12 hours ago, Chadd said:

    My ideas for gang bases.

    1: Add all clothing items from civ stores (Hats mosty)

    2: Remove MB 4WD & Offroad armed from Gang base 2 & 3 , Add Qillin mini-gun to all gang bases for ownership price of 2mil then add ammo packs for the minigun and another 1-2mil each time they want to get more ammo.

    3: Instead of cops applying on the forums to war gang bases add a flag inside the gang bases that allows cops to capture the gang base. Once cops have control and the gang base rebels wont be able to spawn there or use any shops until the rebels gain control back again.

    4: Add wetsuits (AAF) to gang bases & also ams black.

    interesting ideas - a few thoughts from me ?

    1: adding hats should be easy enough - we are talking about the idea of adding the VR suits (not confirmed but seems like a good idea) so that each base gets its own colour (red, green and blue) these wouldnt be skinned as any one could eventually own a gang base.

    2: im interested for more peoples thoughts on this - we could remove the other variants of the armed off road and have the same qilin minigun for all, the original decision to have different vehicles was more a thought on having unique armed vehicles per different gang base (i.e. Our gang really wants to go to war with GB3 as we want the HMG over a minigun etc) but if the people would prefer the minigun for all bases then this can def be looked at. These will still only be rentable however as they are inteded for special use rather then being pulled out every encounter from random garages (becomes unfair for those who dont have a gang base/access to these vehicles) and or the cops just end up pulling out armed vehicles all the time as well.

    3: i like the idea of a capture flag but with some slight tweaks - I still think a gang war application is needed to make it a controlled server event (otherwise people would just roll the gang bases while the owners arent on or theres only a few gang members online at the time) it also allows for AL staff to be able to ensure the terms are agreed, that people show up and manage the change in gang base whitelisting if needed.......... but what if we had a capture flag, that if the opposing gang or cops captured, then that acts as a way to win the war? (so the rule changes to either wipe out all the opposing members or capture the gang base flag to win?)

    4: if we put wetsuits in, would that mean people spend most of the war hiding in the water and using the water as a bullet proof shield (unless armed with an SDAR?), we will look at what specific guns we could add to each base to make them more special as well

    again these are just my personal thoughts and stuff id be happy to raise at the AL Senior Staff for development as we are looking at the gang bases and are keen to improve on them to inspire more gang wars/drive interest and desire in making a long standing gang who will want to fight and keep a base

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  4. Dont stress to much, this is just the anticheat script has detected something changed or missing when your client tried to initialise onto the server. Happens often and if you havent been using scripts etc then you have nothing to worry about ?

    chuck a unban appeal through for altis life at strayagaming.com/support so we can get all your details and unban your client ?


  5. I can do one better than voting... yes, crafting is coming back!

    We are currently working on crafting as we speak! Our intention is to roll out crafting with specific items and weapons in the first release (including 1 or 2 that cannot be bought on the server). Then we will review and see what other items can be added at a future date ?

    keep a look out as we will announce soon when crafting is finalised and give a date then as to when it will be back on Altis Life.

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  6. Thanks for everything Aug! you have always helped me whether it was in HD, as the police commissioner or with medic back in the day. Cant thank you enough!

    its been a real pleasure and you are a top bloke! good luck in your future endeavours and we hope to see you around! :)


  7. Hey Smiddy,

    Blood diamonds do not need processing, instead you take them direct to the illegal dealer at the north most point of the map and sell them to the illegal dealer (30 civs must be online for the illegal dealer to open). Hope this helps!

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  8. Just wanted to wish all the community a happy holidays (Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Winter Solstice, Diwali, Chinese New Year and or what ever you may be celebrating) ?

    Been a crazy year but man has it been fun!

    Cheers! :kkool:

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