vortex1018

This is exactly what Brobeans said and I have already replied to him. refer to 2 replies above yours.

My point is that the cyrus and the Mar 10 shouldn't be classed as a DMR and that DMs and snipers are different and the roles should reflect that accordingly

What I mean is Snipers being restricted to the Sniper rifles, instead of being able to use let's say a Cyrus when the situation demands it, not the other way around. Like I said, can I not perform in the same role with a .338 or even 7.62 rifle? Not to mention .408 and the lynx not being able to have a suppressor fitted. So only auto-riflemen and everyone else has access to .338s, but not snipers. When you say 5.56 and 6.5 aren't ideal for open terrain, you mean the same 5.56 and 6.5 AAF, FIA and CSAT use right? If the enemy is using the same thing what is the issue with a fair fight? Also if anything, restricting DMRs to DMs will actually better squad teamwork and force people to use tactics instead of the game that is with your one shot kill .338 lapua at present. Unless you decide to force stamina on people, restricting the amount of ammo that can be carried for these weapons, there needs to be some sort of change to balance the roles.

Looking at millitaries around the world that have a "marksman" role and their Marksman rifles, only at regular armies and excluding special forces. My understanding of Marksman or designated marksman is soldier that received specialised marksmanship training who still operates in the capacity of a squad. While this relates to my reply, I will focus mainly on the rifles, not the roles because it seems like the in I&A rifles are limited by role but not vice versa. US - DM: 7.62 NATO(M110) 5.56 NATO as well (SAM-R) vs Sniper: 7.62 NATO (M40, M110) .300 Win Mag (M2010) .50 BMG (M107) AUS - DM: 7.62 NATO (SR 25, HK417) vs Sniper: 7.62 NATO (SR98) .338 Lapua (Blaser Tactical 2) .50BMG (AW50) UK - DM: 7.62 NATO (L129, HK417) vs Sniper: 7.62 NATO (L118), .338 Lapua (L115) up to .50 BMG Germany - DM: 7.62 NATO (MR308, G3) vs Sniper: .300 Winmag (G22).338 Lapua (RS9) .50BMG (G82) Austria - 5.56 NATO (AUG HBAR-T) vs Sniper: 7.62 NATO (SSG 69) .338 Lapua (SSG 08) Canada - 5.56 NATO (C7/8CT) vs Sniper : 7.62 NATO (C3A1) .338 Lapua (C14) .50BMG (C15) France - 5.56 NATO (FAMAS G2) vs Sniper: 7/62 NATO (PGM Ultima Ratio, FRF2) .50BMG (PGM Hécate II) Israel - 7.62 NATO (SR25, Galatz) 5.56 NATO (STAR-21) vs Sniper: 7.62 NATO (M24) .338 Lapua (Barak) .50BMG (M82) Switzerland - 7.62NATO (Sig 550) Sniper: .338 Lapua (Sako TRG) .50BMG (PGM Hécate II) These are just listing the countries off the top of my head, I think I'll stop here and really hope you see my point and the common theme here. Looking at the Cyrus, the real life counter parts is the SVDK, chambered for 9.3×64mm taken from http://modernfirearms.net/sniper/sniper-rifles/rus/svdk-e.html. I think if you read this page you will come to the conclusion that this is not intended as a DMR. I am not sure where you take your classifications from. As for Noreen Bad news it's not adopted by any armed force in the world, but looking at the caliber, you would assume it would not be utilised for DM purposes I do agree that a sniper is a role that is ISTAR specific, taking out commanders, AT, AA, JTACs. But why am I limited to .408 and 12.7mm rifles? Can I not do that with a .338 or even 7.62 rifle? I like the option to be able to have a silenced weapon. I am glad you see the issue I am raising here, but if we have rules for CAS/UAV not do deal with everything in the AO and mortars and static weapons limited to FSG, why do we not try and control who engages long range targets and who engages short range targets to make if more fun for everyone? I won't go too much into why I think some guns shouldn't be classed as "DMRs" and why shouldn't only the M320 and the Lynx be classed a "sniper rifle", but to break it down Barney style: 1. Snipers and Designated Marksmen should not be limited to rifles and calibres, but DMR and sniper roles do overlap, as DMR is meant to fill the gap between Riflemen and snipers. 2. A common trait of marksman rifles are that they are usually modified standard issue infantry rifles, they share ammunition already in use with other infantry rifles. 3. DMs stick with squads, Snipers team up with spotters, but I guess that involves teamwork.... whoops Typing this reply up and researching weapons as examples has taken up all my evening, I hope you take this into serious consideration. As currently I do not see this situation as " pretty balanced". @BridTheAtl @InfamousNova @Rogmantosh @Brodie0296 @Matsozetex @Tracuer @Travesty @Ora209

Was very surpirsed when I logged on as sniper and found out i was limited to m320 / lynx Not even allowed to use the cyrus, meanwhile every other rifleman carries a .338 and some machinegunner uses a SPMG with some thermal scope to snipe at 1000 metres Need to have more clarification on Sniper / DMR / Rifleman roles

It won't be OP if like CAS, rules are introduced to set the ROE for FSG

Option 3 sounds great, makes FOBs a more important role than "oh the radar thingo"

Working, but I fully support this.

If they gotta be called in anyway, what difference does it make? Not all the time inf have lase, certainly not when they mark "CAS PLZ HELP" on map. Mind you I haven't flown CAS since we started doing the 1 plane per AO thing (too much responsibility for me haha). But as inf, when we're pinned and are shitting our jocks in some ditch, AGMs could save our arses. AGM makes a difference, especially when there's MPADS around every corner.

Should bring back AGMs if you're gonna castrate the CAS with rules like these.

I suggest we chop it to 40 then

I don't have access to a constant log of numbers on servers. But it seems like I&A needs more slots

So I found this boat near the last AO, wanted to get to next AO. Sniped everyone on the boat and swam to it. LOCKED. swam 10 minutes when I could've used the boat....

Most def have the lights outwards