decibel_spl 76 Report post Posted October 6, 2016 (edited) As this is an issue of late, here is a proposed and discussed list of the ROE in writing. - Classification - CAS: Close Air Support. For the purposes of I&A, CAS consists of any fixed wing or rotor propelled aircraft with primary weapons - this does not include miniguns on Ghost Hawks Fire Support: Fire support consists of all fixed position or mobile artillery. - The ROE - 1. CAS and Fire support CAN NOT engage ground targets without CLEAR and SPECIFIC tasking by ground forces. Ground forces are INFANTRY on the ground IN THE AO, this cannot be pilots, UAV op or other artillery roles. What is clear and specific tasking? This is as follows: A friendly requesting a CAS mission on a specific vehicle which can be soley identified among others A friendly clearly stating they are lasing a target from a certain cardinal direction (N, NE, E, SE, etc) and stating what the target is A friendly requesting fire support or CAS, specifing what their requested target is and giving a precise indication as to their location - grid reference, map mark or landmark CAS and Fire Support will not engage if there is any doubt friendlies could be harmed. If you wish to call in support when there are friendlies within 100m of the target, you must call "DANGER CLOSE" to indicate there is Bluefor infantry within the area. 2. The ONLY targets which CAS and Fire Support can engage at free will are as follows: AA threats - Tigrises and Cheetahs alike Enemy Aircraft - Attack helos and CAS jets alike Vehicles who are outside of the AO who pose minimal to no risk to ground forces - as a general guide, 2kms should be the minimum Enemy Watercraft if they ARE NOT an intergral part of the AO's at main or side 3. For clarification, other targets CAS CAN NOT engage without tasking are: The Radio Tower Vehicles shooting at you in the CAS that ARE NOT either a Tigris or a Cheetah - if you are getting shot at by niether of these, you are too close HQ Actual Side Objective Vehicles or infantry This combined with the new - Waiting for CAS slot - on the TS channel will hopefully clear any issues and improve the enjoyment of all players Edited October 6, 2016 by decibel_spl 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tracuer 92 Report post Posted October 6, 2016 Well said, 12 hours ago, decibel_spl said: 1. CAS and Fire support CAN NOT engage ground targets without CLEAR and SPECIFIC tasking by ground forces. Ground forces are INFANTRY on the ground IN THE AO, this cannot be pilots, UAV op or other artillery roles. Though, I honestly think the UAV op should be ok to call in CAS, as they usually have a better eye on things than some of the infantry. Not to mention it is part of their role as a forward observer to communicate fire-support on to target. 12 hours ago, decibel_spl said: 2. The ONLY targets which CAS and Fire Support can engage at free will are as follows: AA threats - Tigrises and Cheetahs alike Enemy Aircraft - Attack helos and CAS jets alike Vehicles who are outside of the AO who pose minimal to no risk to ground forces - as a general guide, 2kms should be the minimum Enemy Watercraft if they ARE NOT an intergral part of the AO's at main or side The other thing I'd add to this is the defend missions, support is free to fire on anything outside the a ring of say 100M of the EHQ. Because the defends are so vehicle intense and hard to survive to start with, the infantry have a hard time marking targets for support to shoot at. So giving them free reign on targets in this situation will help the survival of infantry. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fitz 1239 Report post Posted October 7, 2016 18 hours ago, decibel_spl said: this cannot be pilots, UAV op or other artillery roles Most of what you said is implied or stated in the rules already. The clear and specific tasking might be a bit too specific for most players. Not everyone comes from a realism unit and typically a player will just lase and specify the target and rough location (NE of AO). I agree with Tracuer, the UAV op is and should be permitted to direct CAS/artillery requests as needed. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
