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I was going though one of my oldest hard drives and I came across this image. This is a piece of StrayaGaming history. It was used as your loading in image for Altis Life. Server pop of just 23 in peak hours... and yes the market was that busy... so busy we could setup a screenshot without anyone around in the market... Something don't change... the swag car is a classic... We have come a long way from there and I would like to thank everyone for been apart of this community.

Just thought i'd throw this in since spawning 16 kits a day is not so bad. This is the usage of leader markers for each staff member that has ever used them. Leader markers are essentially a wallhack for the player that is acting as the 'leader' of each squad in-game. Keep in mind this is only going back to August 1st, and this feature has been in the mission file for much longer. I have also included my SQL query so you can see how I am getting these results.

i called this abuse of power out MULTIPLE times March last year and it either fell on deaf ears or Ya Mum Denied it resulting in it being ignored. im glad this injustice has finally ended and wish you all the best in restoring Strayagamings Wasteland to its former self.

Hey @Baden, get back to us when you eventually crawl out of that grave red just put you in.

Couldn't agree more with this. I had multiple run ins with that particular scumbag. His day finally came.

Hey All, Against my better judgement I've decided to comment on this thread to offer my own opinion and response to everything that has been thrown around regarding this issue. I had been trying to stay away from it in favour of more useful pursuits but after reading this thread i feel obliged to express my sentiment in at least some capacity. My opinion on the issue has always been that as a function of the time dedicated to staffing/working on the server staff should be entitled to some perks, however there is a line where use of "perks" drifts into the world of abuse and becomes detrimental to the server as a whole. The fundamental backbone of pvp servers (or indeed servers in general) is fairness, a fair go. The players need to be able to feel that their experience in the game passes a minimum degree of fairness, that's why we ban hackers instead of letting them run loose and we stop teamkillers because they undermine the competitive integrity of the server and ruin peoples enjoyment. We can now consider the idea fairness when applied to the issues red addressed in his original post/comments here, namely the way some staff utilized the tools supplied to them. Used in moderation these tools are fine, like any good thing, in moderation people tend to be understanding and okay with it given the work people put in. But if people use them all the time players very quickly feel like the staff team is cheating to win, which undermines community faith in the staff team and server as a whole and makes players feel like the server is rigged against them/fundamentally unfair in a way that makes them quit/leave. Then we have leadermarkers, for leadermarkers I cannot/could not ever see a justification for the level of use that they saw. Leadermarkers are about as close to literal cheating as a tool can get when used in a competitive setting outside of administration duties. I acknowledge that it can be useful in server event situations or when spectating player, but when you are actively killing people with leadermarkers on and spawned gear I can easily see how players might feel that staff are cheating. It brings into question the integrity of the whole server. I dont think anyone could argue with a straight face that someone both seeing them on the map/through walls and shooting at them with spawned in gear at the same time would not make players frustrated to the point of leaving. Because it is unfair, despite what rationalizations anyone can come up with. That is not a "perk" that is cheating. To anyone who has/would contend that staffing does not play a role in the perception and popularity of a server I could not more strongly disagree. When players feel staff are cheating/abusing powers or are having heated arguments with them in chat it does not make the server feel like a welcoming environment or a place they want to be. I acknowledge our server has other problems, which i am working on fixing as best I can! However, staff integrity and actions can easily make or break a server and should not be downplayed like it has been in a few comments above. Because when players see staff continually using powers in a way that tips the balance beyond any reasonable perception of fairness for no reason except personal enjoyment it WILL drive people away, especially when it continues over the course of months even the most loyal players will leave, feeling hopeless and like the deck is stacked against them The players on the server should not be our enemies, the community and loyal players are what ultimately makes a server great/long lasting. To treat players with disdain and disrespect is not just unprofessional, it is suicidal for the server. Staff arent better than players, we are there to ensure the server runs fairly and smoothly. I think at some point this fact was lost sight of by some people. As i see it our role now is two fold, a) to re-establish faith in the integrity of staff, b) improve the server (performance and gameplay wise) to make it more enjoyable again. To anyone who has been away, You are most welcome back with open arms and if you have any feedback or wants for the next update let me know! We can all make WL great again together :) Anyway I've said my piece now, I hope it helps shed some light on everything.

I am not sure where you got 3 years from, you have never had access to view the database. That's alright though, i'll include it here for you. The logging for this began 2017-07-31 20:49:12 With the first kit being spawned in by ALI, you can see this below. So taking that into account the actual usage is 15.89 kits per day, a very different story than what you believed it to be. I could pull up the archived logs before that date where I reset them but I don't think that is really necessary to get the point across.

Can't say this was a surprise about Ya Mum abusing his powers. When we questioned him about his sus ability to come back to the same spot with a lynx, he abused us and banned me for 24 hours. Report got dismissed of course even though the logs were there, what a joke. Slowly stopped playing that server after that incident. It is quite ridiculous that this went on for so long and only recently he got removed.

Only 272 times... Everyone knows you need 300 before it's considered unfair

Also sorry to disappoint, but no "Dramatic Analysis" today. I will say one thing though and that's kits where only implemented in July 2017. Also i'll just leave these here...

In response to this thread: I didn't really want to make a thread about this, i'm normally a fairly quiet player on the server and since retiring 2 years ago when J17 was around I tried to avoid getting involved in the politics of a gaming community, but this thread really did push me over the edge. It sickens me to see such rubbish being spouted out by a supposed "Leader" of this community, a person who was brought in and catapulted straight to the top due to internal friends, all of which is completely fabricated and insulting. The primary issue with this all is not only is he insulting peoples work that they have put into this server for years and given up their own free time instead of playing the game, he has done it to people who have done it for no reward, and clearly no personal gain now that this thread has come out dragging their names through the mud. This entire fiasco started due to some leadership staff increasingly putting pressure onto the Wasteland staff to "Boost the numbers" and "Provide better support for players", yet they had taken no notice of why the players were leaving the server, nor that it had nothing to do with the people who put in their own time to maintaining what little player base there was. You cannot moderate a server to popularity, and the sole responsibility of increasing population for a server lies in the hands of the developers and the owners, no one else. I understand complaints were made for some staff, as is expected with any moderation role as you need to make decisions which obviously the opposing party are not going to like (e.g. abusive players getting banned for being abusive, they are going to complain to get unbanned and pull any dirt up on the staff member they can). But that is not grounds to make people feel like they are worthless and that all the work they have put into this server was for nothing, they are what kept this server from falling into dismay and the fact that you would go as far to say that LOADOUTS, an arbitrary at best function given to admins was the reason they were somehow abusing the playerbase is absolutely pathetic. Loadouts were allowed at all times by the operating staff of wasteland as it not only doesn't affect other players unfairly, it is a minor perk as mentioned for people who have to spend their playing time moderating the server and not accumulating money. This new group of server leadership staff seems to have a persistent trend of pointing fingers instead of assisting their staff or resolving issues, and it really does put a poor light on what this community once was, a mere shadow of what it used to be, with poisonous people using their appointed ranks to do whatever they want to try and save face. It really makes me sad.

#BringBackTheRainbowSUV

Hello All, Over the period of 2 weeks, ending as of the 22/1/18. We will be running a trial on a couple things. First, as many of you probably noticed already, we are adding a rule to the federal reserve. This will stop anyone joining the fed from either party after the bomb has detonated. This is as discussed in the Community Meeting held recently. Following on from the discussions regarding the moving of the police checkpoints. Which you can read about here. We have redesigned and moved the police checkpoint further into city limits. Thanks to @Excel for the design that you can see here. This design is based upon the design that was created by @Zorgain, which you can see in the discussions thread as linked above. We will aim to have this added in a future update. There may be some changes made to it before then. There will be no rule changes regarding it immediately, however depending on how it all plays out, we may make modifications to suit how we intend the checkpoint to function. Following on from this, in the recent AL staff meeting. We have decided to change 2 additional rules. This will be the removal of rule 8.1.1 and the addition of rule 13.5.2

Wasteland Changes Lads, We undergoing some changes with Wasteland Staff and Server. We are aiming to upgrade the server over the next few months. We will not be updating the current server while we work on the new server unless there is a massive issue. We aim to rebuild the population back into this server. Cheers LuckyB33f

it is when you have someone who is trash and needs that crutch whilst also using leadermarkers.

Recently there have been some staff members that have either been getting bored with the work they are doing, or are unable to work appropriately with other staff members. Some have retired, some have been removed from staff and one has even been community banned as a result. I would like to point out that I am targeting the ex-staff members and making it very clear that we will never tolerate this kind of behavior. Unfortunately, when it comes down to it, this is the sad reality of any online gaming community. There is no legal obligation for staff to perform and act correctly, they are all volunteers. We entrust a lot of power and authority in the staff team, intending for it to be used to benifet the community. Sadly some staff will decide that they are leaving, or bored of the community. Due to the nature of the internet and anonymity, they elect to destroy whatever they can in an attempt to bring everyone and everything down with them. Here is a brief overview of recent incidents: Wasteland Over the past few weeks and months, Lucky B33f and I have been discussing at lengths about issues with Wasteland Staff abusing the powers that we have given them, to quite severe extents. In a recent patch we removed 90% of the 'fun' admin tools, this is purely due to the fact that no appropriate resolution could be made between the wasteland staff after multiple interventions to reduce the abuse of power. As a result of this YaMum the Administrator was removed from staff, Baden retired, and Unit Retired. “As a result of this... Baden retired...” grammatically the “this” being “no appropriate resolution ... to reduce the abuse of power” I resigned for reasons other than those that Red lumped me into. Mainly due to the underwhelming support of staff in game, the abrogation of responsibility by senior staff for the deteriorating state of the server and subsequent finger pointing to lay blame for lessening player numbers at the feet of game staff. The “multiple interventions” you speak about elude me. I remember staff loadouts being mentioned twice in the short period I was on staff. Once, when I arrived, by Unit who explained that they are available and then again in a team discussion with Beef who asked our opinion on their use. No decision was made to preclude us from using them. In the last week and a half before I resigned, Beef said in “Slack” that he wanted to assess something and asked the staff either to not play or play under an alias and to not use our “powers” during that time. I have no idea what he was doing or his conclusions based on this assessment. Lucky B33f and I both identified multiple players receiving abuse from YaMum while under an alias. Additionally YaMum was responsible for the introduction of over 350 admin kits to the game and the utilization of player markers to gain an unfair advantage more than 200 time. For a comparison of kits between other staff, see the below numbers. Admin kits allow staff to spawn in items for them to use on either event or for general gameplay, we normally allow this as staff are usually unable to spend the same amount of time playing the game and building up their arsenal due to staffing work. “We usually allow this”. My understanding was clearly that it was not usual but in fact always allowed. As is evidenced by the fact that Yamum used it for more than 3 years. If it was not allowed why did it take so long for senior admin to act on the “illegal behaviour”? If it was allowed but its use was a problem for other players - ban the kits not the staff member using an allowed item. Please note these results were recorded on December 19th. Admin Kits since Dec 1st Yamum 48 Unit 12 James 1 Excel 0 Baden 10 Total 71 Admin Kits since forever Yamum 320 Unit 22 James 38 Excel 49 Total 487 So to clarify, Yamum plays daily he used the kits 320 times for a period in excess of 3 years! 108 times a year, once every 3 to 4 days! It doesn’t sound so excessive until you compare it with Unit, who more recently played a few times a month, James who plays once or twice a week (based solely on my own observation), Excel who I have never seen on Wasteland and me. Because it was omitted from the second part of the analysis above I can tell you I used 10 kits “since” forever. Once, the day I became a moderator to see what it entitled me to (losing the high end gear I had at the time) and the remaining 9 times over a one to 2 day period to see if it added to my experience. It didn’t and I reverted to not using it. Obvious in his omission from the list is Dak who, like Yamum, plays daily and is an excellent administrator. Who might also have provided a clearer comparison to Yamum in use of loadouts and Zeus. Straygaming’s concern about diminishing numbers on the server is well founded. As a player I was most concerned that the server I played on was stable and fair. For what it’s worth I would advise staff to look outwardly to what other servers are doing right. I’ve been playing on other Wasteland servers with 80 players at a time and none of the jets are flying backwards, my character doesn’t suddenly crash and there is always someone from admin there to help. I played 6000 hours+ on Strayagaming, I think I was well know by the people playing Wasteland and relatively unknown by people on Slack and the SG website. Most of the people I played with would have no idea who the senior staff are and no idea how they play the game, they have concerns about changes made to the game by people they don’t know. In conclusion to Red’s post: I was NOT bored in my role as moderator, I think I worked appropriately and well with other staff members, I have no intention of “destroying” anything. I am targeting the ex-staff members and making it very clear that we will never tolerate this kind of behavior. Since you don’t actually state what the behaviour is, I will remain alert and try to curb any intolerable behaviour. FBI’s dramatic analysis, supported as always by James, should follow shortly.

I think i will release some footage of the old days i have found... alot of it is rebel vs rebel action and lots of wasteland

Wow brings me back to one of my favorite group photos on wasteland

Welcome lads, Grab yourself some pop-corn and enjoy your stay.

So database logs from 2017 are fabricated? Players filing reports and complaining are fabricated? I was once told from one of these staff members "Logs don't lie", well they sure don't do they? Now unless you're trying to tell everyone that this evidence is fabricated. No, what's insulting is the players that were banned, abused and neglected due to a person in a position of power. Could you please provide some examples? I can name a few for one. Using leadermarkers to gain an unfair gameplay advantage through gaining the knowledge of where every single group leader was on the map at all times. Whenever my group used to play on the server we would assign a 'sheep' to be group leader, which essentially means sentencing him to die at the hands of Ya Mum, and surely enough this happened every single time. It wouldn't matter if you where 15 meters apart from each other, he would always kill the group leader 90% of the time. With jets, rockets, drones and finally wall banging with a APDS Lynx. If you're telling me these reasons to not equate to disgruntled players as they would die due to a major disadvantage, any element of surprise or stealth went out the window when you where either a group leader or a Single Indi player (Counts as leader). If anyone questioned him in global he would come up with any excuse to say he wasn't using an unfair advantage. Anyone should sure as hell quit the server after being shot through a wall with a Lynx multiple times, and he always gave the same excuse "Your gun was through the wall" etc. Multiple times.. If you don't see the problem here then why even question StrayaGaming Leads. No you cannot but you can sure as hell run it into the ground through abuse of power. What exactly does 'dirt' consist of? You make it sound like hard evidence is to be ignored because it is 'dirt' Of course if someone is banned unfairly they will try their best to get unbanned. Imagine if you spoke about kits in global and got permanently banned, doesn't seem right does it? Or if you saw an admin spawn inside a jet then went to question it and got banned? It sounds like you cannot accept the hard truth of the manner. Your friends cheated and they got caught, you can make any excuse you want but at the end of the day they're in the wrong. So you're telling me the ability to spawn in fully kitted with a Thermal helmet, AA, Ghillie, Lynx and Nightstalker isn't unfair. What about a Compact, Thermal Helmet, Navid and Nightstalker. This can be argued as gear does not equate to skill. However when you combine that with the use of Leadermarkers it opens the gates to so many possibilities. Tell me exactly how the use of these kits which would normally cost near 90k each isn't unfair to be used unlimited times , or how it does not unfair affect others, or how it is a minor perk. You can't? That's alright, I wouldn't be able to either. The whole arrangement of "it is a minor perk as mentioned for people who have to spend their playing time moderating the server and not accumulating money" is invalid once the people who have access to it played every single day for 30 days straight for multiple hours per day. Anyone could accept the use of those kits if they had limited play time, or that they are hard at work developing for the server, or expanding the map. But once you give a function like that to someone who plays more than 80% of the playerbase and allow him to do as he wishes it becomes a major problem. On the off chance he dies with all these advantages or a player kills him despite him knowing their location all the time, he can spawn another in and do it all again? No, anyone with half a brain would call this an unfair advantage, but you call it a "Minor Perk" and argue that it does not negatively affect others. Additionally loadouts to my understanding where allowed for moderate use, not for usage unlimited times within the day. I cannot say my opinion on this manner as i do not know what goes on behind closed doors at StrayaGaming, however i'm sure the Staff members where warned. It also makes me sad that this kind of behaviour was allowed to go on for such a long period of time, and i am thankful for Red & LuckyB33f naming and shaming the staff in question. How exactly was it unfair, maybe it unfair to the players that where on the other end of it? What and when he chooses to do when your are playing is completely up to him, however even though you may of never seen him use kits recently, the server logs once again are there and they do not lie. And i'm sure those newer staff members have done more for StrayaGaming than Ya Mum did in his entire years of 'hard work', of which all he was an over glorified moderator. He was given power to do good and he abused it and was dealt with. How exactly isn't it true that he abused his powers, you cannot look at the cold hard facts and accept them, please tell that the the many people that have quit Wasteland due to him, or the individuals that where unfairly disadvantaged due to his 'non-abuse' of power.

Recently there have been some staff members that have either been getting bored with the work they are doing, or are unable to work appropriately with other staff members. Some have retired, some have been removed from staff and one has even been community banned as a result. I would like to point out that I am targeting the ex-staff members and making it very clear that we will never tolerate this kind of behavior. Unfortunately, when it comes down to it, this is the sad reality of any online gaming community. There is no legal obligation for staff to perform and act correctly, they are all volunteers. We entrust a lot of power and authority in the staff team, intending for it to be used to benifet the community. Sadly some staff will decide that they are leaving, or bored of the community. Due to the nature of the internet and anonymity, they elect to destroy whatever they can in an attempt to bring everyone and everything down with them. Here is a brief overview of recent incidents: Wasteland Over the past few weeks and months, Lucky B33f and I have been discussing at lengths about issues with Wasteland Staff abusing the powers that we have given them, to quite severe extents. In a recent patch we removed 90% of the 'fun' admin tools, this is purely due to the fact that no appropriate resolution could be made between the wasteland staff after multiple interventions to reduce the abuse of power. As a result of this YaMum the Administrator was removed from staff, Baden retired, and Unit Retired. Lucky B33f and I both identified multiple players receiving abuse from YaMum while under an alias. Additionally YaMum was responsible for the introduction of over 350 admin kits to the game and the utilization of player markers to gain an unfair advantage more than 200 time. For a comparison of kits between other staff, see the below numbers. Admin kits allow staff to spawn in items for them to use on either event or for general gameplay, we normally allow this as staff are usually unable to spend the same amount of time playing the game and building up their arsenal due to staffing work. Please note these results were recorded on December 19th. Admin Kits since Dec 1st Yamum 48 Unit 12 James 1 Excel 0 Baden 10 Total 71 Admin Kits since forever Yamum 320 Unit 22 James 38 Excel 49 Total 487 Altis Life We have permanently banned Krypkii from the community due to multiple breaches of community guidelines after he retired. Krypkii, after deciding to retired has proceeded to remove all community members from the Discord server. Spawn in money on Altis Life with Moderator tools and abuse moderator functions to hunt and kill other players. In this image Krypkii altered his bank account to give himself $80m These are the logs for Krypkii using the free cam function to teleport around the map and kill players.

Enjoy just some oldies might play again IDK

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you got any examples?

how unfortunate that nobody can see the good these fantastic moderators brought to the server