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-I have never seen a cop in real life walk around a city with an assault rifle. How about these fine officers inside a subway? -I have never seen a gun or piece of ammo on gumtree [have a black market and a gumtree 4 more "role play"] True... All I could find was a bolt action pen... http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/copmanhurst/other-antiques-art-collectables/bullet-pen-bolt-action-hand-turned-in-aust-from-tea-tree/1133458566 -I have never heard of a person that goes and mines materials to make a gun this is not rust. To be honest here, in the old days they did do that. Nowadays its all done in mass production... This wouldn't stop illegal weapons manufacturers from doing it the old way though. But then again, there's also no statistics on it because its illegal... So we'll never know. -I have never seen a cop try and negotiate to stop someone from robbing a bank its all about killing [If we add negotiations that would add more "Role-play"] No, officers are never about 'killing' - even in a bank robbery. Officers will always attempt to bring in any robbers peacefully. The only reason this often doesn't happen is because the robber will pose an immediate threat to civilians and/or officers. (US: https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/10/1047.7 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadly_force) (Australia: https://www.loc.gov/law/help/police-weapons/australia.php) (If you mean officers in game should RP more by negotiating, then I'll just add that they either 1) get deced on by the robbers that any cops entering will be shot, or 2) officers just get shot anyways)

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This is how we are thinking and why Lads, If we add a gun store this is what we see in it. Lets use @Farensik. for eg. He has 53million 13 Cars 4 houses 3 supply creates IED - 300k = 176 IEDs with your bank MK14 - 250k = 212 - not including ammo This is just one person in one gang. Your possibility to put a shit load of guns in other houses while everyone is off line doesn't work. You all say it will work and you will fight each other but I am willing to put money on this that it'll last 2 nights before everyone is super geared and over powered. Crafting How we see crafting. Tier 1 Barrel 1 steel Tier 2 Barrel 4 steel Tier 3 Barrel 1 tempered steel Tier 4 Barrel 2 Tempered Steel Tier 5 Barrel 3 Steel Block 3 Gold If this is to much or lengthy give me a better plan based on your exp. I don't want to see its fucked or its shit. We put so much effort into what we do. we don't just say its shit, we work out how to fix it. We don't want another wastelands. Where we are at with thinking about this request The store will appear when there is 50+ players on the server. It will be a database store so you can sell or add stuff to it before it opens. It will be limited stock Pricey... Street value + more Lowering the crafting specs to make it easier Any other ways you can think of i'm happy to consider but not just a simple gun store. Something random: I was just thinking what if a mafia (AI) that owns a base at KOS area that protects the boss. That sells the guns so it is a few people raid. With a 5min re spawn. Gotta think of how to do it so you lads cant pick up the gear tho... <---- This is a random thought just as I write this... Be creative... We know you guys want it we can't deny that. We are not been disrespectful on this request but something like this turns altis life into wastelands very easily. Cheers LuckyB33f

do love me some farming of rocks

No the idea is, spawns so many over time... so if nothing has been bought in a long time there will be shit loads... just not unlimited... And the 2nd idea which is still an idea was if its "Closed" you can drop shit off to increase the chances of good shit...

Saves me from explaining over and over

So before someone screams #pilotmasterrace some of us supporters like to use other vehicles (refer #heavyarmourmasterrace), but don't have access to any custom skins. Wondering if we might be able to get some for tanks, APCs etc. ALSO, is there some way to mark friendly "enemy" vehicles such as the Kuma so that the idiots who just shoot on sight without checking first have less of an excuse for doing so? But yea, tank skins

I 100% agree

All very good points and yes I may have 53 million dollars but that's because I worked for it you cant just deny something because people worked hard for the money and will become OP, its called end game. I do like @Reds Idea though of 60+ players and the store will be open, and to be honest the chances of getting shit would probably be slim. You have 60 people that now know the gun store Is open it will no doubt will be camped [ill sit there all day], the main reason I put this suggestion up Is because I hate, hate crafting shit. Go gather shit for 3 or more hours with the chance of getting robbed, store It in your the house, get off a for a bit and come back, this goes two ways your house is know being broken into by the cops cause they have hoped on at 2am looking for houses. Then you ask to see the warrant but then the most stupid excuse ever, "oh your sp or your apart of this organastion or your on the wanted list for this and that It is automatically a code black" [code black means raid on sight] even with out of evidence of rebel gear [No warrant]. Or it can go the other way, alright so I have this new mk1emr but I just spent 5 hours crafting it, people don't want loose something they just built. Before I was into the gangs I was a lone civilian, this would of been back on old server but I would of been to scared to buy a good gun I would legit only buy a trg because I knew PNX, SP or KC was going to rob me, I respect you for trying to add more RP by adding crafting but I ask people, hey ill pay 2 mill to make this and there like no way ill get robbed or that shizz take way to long, and honestly I never heard of a rebel gang in the real world mine and craft there guns, you call It wasteland but to the rest of us its like a black market, even If its like a side mission: "We have word that the black market has been opened on altis on the rebel island, be quick the cops are on to him and he leaves in an hour or two" something like that. I Respect your side and your Idea But I do feel you need to add a gun store in some form as it is a liked suggestion by the community. From Farensik xoxo colours are there because it look pretty<3

I don't understand how 1 minute you can be in SRT loving it then the next you're making memes about it and saying their shit. It really triggers me tbh

Half of Altis Life would be 4565 players anyway, as we have 9131 registered accounts.

little does Zehaava realize that strayagaming has 5 other servers and that the community is not just altis life

Of those 3293 hours, at least 1000 were spent on Altis Life servers. Please understand that I am not here to make it difficult for you or any other players, I won't outright deny anything without prior though and discussion with other staff. As I indicated in my initial post, I was going to discuss the topic with other staff and get their opinions. What is the point in adding something like this into the server. It is just an excuse for you to kill players and skip the "boring" parts of Altis Life. What you are requesting is that we turn altis life into Wasteland, there is absolutely no roleplay involved in this at all. If you are wanting a special zone to just go an kill players please go to This server instead. It will accommodate your free-for-all desires. Altis Life is a roleplay server, instead of trying to push some KOS zone so you can bypass crafting and roleplay to just kill players. Maybe think about something that fits the core of altis life instead. If you are wanting to try and push an idea or feature to the server through the forums, instead of complaining and flaming staff/members who have an alternate opinion to you try and justify your ideas or provide some points that may sway their opinion. I can guarantee you will see more progress and faster. Here are some of the thoughts from the staff when we discussed the topic for a while. "I think it'd be a decent idea, but at the same time it's not providing much RP except it being camped in KOS" "It is an excuse to kill people... its providing exactly zero RP." Some of the solutions we thought up for this. "Move the air-drops to the KOS zone only with a requirement of like 20 civs online for it to drop" "Move the store around every restart and need 60 players online to access it"

1. 60+ pop for it to be accessible 2. It could announce when it opens and closes, maybe it'll be open for a couple hours every day for you to go and buy stuff, the trader would be in the open so it's a risk to buy stuff and you'd be waiting a while to clear everything and make sure it's 100% safe to risk heading out and spending money. 3. No ATM there so you'd have to risk taking the money over and losing it because people are waiting (like they should be) 4. Maybe it will be open for 30 minutes every 2 hours or something. 5. Only about to buy 1 thing from there every time it opens? There are just 4 things I thought of that could work. Not up to me, just having my input.

// Hidden @Farensik. - Your post has been hidden. Dev Lead decisions are final, we do things at the best interest in the community however also need to balance the game. Flaming when not liking a decision is unnecessary.

Hahaha yeah choppers are useless vs a lot of AA to the point of being comical, I tend to find the only time CAS is effective/long lived is when players dont buy AA, or if you have an exceptional pilot like @FBI or one of the other skilled pilots on the server!, but no matter how good you are 2-3 similtaneous AA WILL kill a heli almost regardless of the flaring skill of the pilot. As for @YA_MUM's idea i think that is an ideal compromise, it punishes intel lacking teams and means human driven logistics (be it boots on the ground or drones) is needed for CAS and mortars to be effective without needing a direct nerf to their offensive capabilities in the hands of a skilled pilot, it also stops the stupid "chase the other team across the server and wipe them before they gear" that leads to rage quitting and one team being depopulated due to the other team chain killing them any time they go near a gunstore, overall IMO its a badically ideal change in terms of improving server health while not punishing teams simply playing well, it also removes the strange notion of the game passively giving you enemy positions which i've never really liked

I'm loving some of the suggestions in this thread. Some really positive (and really shit) suggestions. how about this, keep jets and mortars but simply remove the red and green markers for the gun stores on the map? if you're in a gun store we'll keep the enemy entered the area message but on the map it will just look like a vacant gun store The intent would be that the pilots and mortar spammers can still have their fun but they need intel from other players where the enemy is and not rely on map colours

I would like to clarify that OSG was placed (on creation) a one week trial. OSG is working well and is here to stay. If anyone has any suggestions or things they think would work let myself or orgog know and we'll get back to you asap. In relation to the other points made I do not have a definitive answer, however, I will get back to everyone. Let's keep this a discussion, if anyone has anyone has any suggestions please direct them to an appropriate thread or create another thread.

I like the buzzard skin.

I dont want to be all rude and that, but is there really a need to post a whole post about it? Like really.

14/02/17 Changes: Recruitable AI have been re-added. They will automatically be removed from all Ironside vehicles. Smoke grenades thrown near HQ's are automatically deleted when there are many players nearby. Added restriction disallowing Pilots from using base Artillery when >20 players. Only Pilots can deploy ropes now. Once deployed, players outside the chopper can control them as normal. Removed automated group messages such as "Regroup", "Contact - Enemy - 100m", etc.. Added button in Comm-Link menu that automatically joins Teamspeak when clicked. Added support for JSRS 5.17 http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=861133494. Support for JSRS4 Apex will be removed 20/02/17.

Being in the game with Juddy ("ATC") has given insight into how this "ATC" control is just about catering to his ego and not explicitly beneficial to play, which is what ARMA is, its a game. I think this is a poor idea if it isn't even going to use real Radio Communications conventions. I personally have been abused by this person because I didn't role-play with him, to the extent where he incited other people in the channel to abuse me as well. The map gets cluttered by marking down pad 1, 2 , 3 & 4 with the biggest map markers you can find. You even go to the point of telling pilots where to land, designating their landing zones (at this point where is the fun in being a pilot?). All of the above leads to unhelpful amount of information in teamspeak and detracts from my personal experience. This server already has a noticeable problem with young people on teamspeak in the CAS / Transport channel relentlessly telling everyone what they are doing, how good they're at doing it and I personally don't want to enable this type of behaviour.

I'd just like to give a special mention and appreciative message to vizzN for his hard work and dedication and as a community manager, for not only supplying his own money to fund this giveaway but for continuously supporting the community. Thanks man.

@Aidanjr nah we are right dude, with real, fitz and nova all working on skins we are pretty set thanks.

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